You define the entity or behavior you want to check the existence of. Precisely because of the reasons you state (and more). Because those are the things people in practice mean by free will. But I don’t know what the phrase “being deterred is a rational exercise of free will” means. The value of autonomy is not relevant to the existence of autonomy. I thought Harris did blogs and talks and quasipolitical polemics, not neuroscience research. Meaning it always exists by degrees. And that’s the only coherent notion of freedom that anyone would ever really want. That’s self-contradictory.

Even less someone who was just pointed to an article demonstrating the scientific fact you are now denying, yet doesn’t address any of the arguments in that demonstration.

Please.

That Harris is being inconsistent (by treating free will differently than consciousness and every other mental capacity, vis-a-vis how we respond to erroneous folk beliefs about them). Whether or not any of that is true for each of their views, I think it is an important question to ask how peoples’ folk beliefs on punishment change, when primed towards towards Compatibilism vs priming them towards Hard Determinism. The solution to this seems promising for resolving the fundamental difference between QM gravity and RT. And, so far as compatiblity with science is concerned, instead of compatibility with religion and law, philosophy’s siblings? And when your decision is in so accord, the same input (the same knowledge and desires)—you should want and hope!—will always produce the same output (the same selection among options).

The very claim to find free will and reality compatible denies this in the name! I believe Daniel Dennett is against retributive justice. “If you find Dennett’s argument anywhere, do let me know.” I will make sure to make a proper look at this and get back to you if I can, although …. Dennett is talking about reality.
The only argument that can logically warrant abandoning a punishment policy, is utilitarian. And no one who attacks it, is a compatibilist. He’s saying that if a puppet feels like it’s a real boy, then it’s pedantic not to call it one. Dennett said so. Sam Harris, a neuroscientist, then wrote a lengthy and testy reply in February (The Marionette’s Lament: A Response to Daniel Dennett). consciousness is an aggregate of gazillions of what she thinks are instantaneous time moments; but if those moments don’t exist anymore as she claims, consciousness could not exist at all, and you and I would not exist nor be having this conversation—in short, if no amount of time greater than a Planck time ever exists, but consciousness can only exist over a span of gazillions of Planck times (as we have decisively proved is the case), her model predicts consciousness would never exist. A movie can only be seen as moving from OUTSIDE the movie and I know you don’t believe in an external soul… if you believe we are not hyperdimensional beings enjoying a movie, I suggest you give it a bit more thought instead of just assuming what you currently believe makes any sense at all. You don’t give any reason why the conclusion is a “false conclusion.” That’s what I mean by not addressing the actual argument of the piece.

Everyday folks can’t find Australia on a map. It is usually a red flag for not having an actual defense. Otherwise, it’s always someone’s will involved. Which is why we are justified in killing them. But would that be enough? It is not an either/or. Which only illustrates yet again why Daniel Dennett is the real expert here. The only reason for insisting it is free is to limit considerations of diminished capacity, on the one hand, and to rule out considerations of social causes, on the other. if it to have a chance of succeeding. I doubt that [Harris is] denying that we ever influence other people’s desires. I find George Ellis (in Discovery Mag) Advocating a “growing” block universe. Um. It does not say anything you are. https://danielmiessler.com/blog/dennett-wrong-freewill/. P.S.

And in every respect, each benefit it serves, is an act of self-defense, and justified on the theory of self-defense. Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Reflections on Free Will: A Review by Daniel C. Dennett, The Marionette’s Lament: A Response to Daniel Dennett, A Test of Bayesian History: Efraim Wallach on Old Testament Studies. Each cell thus contains a conscious person. I know of no work whatsoever by any compatibilists that acknowledges variation in human personalities and capacities. “I have seen determinist defenses of retributivism before” If the names of any defenders spring to mind I would love to check them out. Unacceptable. All three are illusory. you keep saying that a STATIC version of us in each moment experiences an entire apparent flow of time… tell me how you think something NOT moving can experience anything… you seem to just accept that this is rational and possible… From every current brain study I am aware, the facts boil down to this… we exist within a dream world… we have no clue how this dream is generated but its the ONLY world we ever know… it is our direct experience… the presumption is that while we are in the state called AWAKE our bodily senses are correcting this dream world, and while ASLEEP they are not and our dream is free to cascade down our memory net and create the world with far less limitations and far more incursions from associative memories. As to how free will is used in the actual world, I think Harris and others have good arguments that show that it’s not that clear cut. Anyway, honestly I really do not see how throwing in personal attacks to one of the “contenders” may add anything useful or helpful to the debate. Consciousness and choice do not exist below that threshold, because consciousness and choice is computation, and computation takes time to complete. If you happen to have a lack of concentration while playing a card, you may play the wrong one. As to my references to the long sway of the Dunning School in Reconstruction studies, I didn’t offer support because I thought it was common knowledge.

Now I believe it is an accurate element of reality… even in a determined universe choice is actually possible. But he still needs to take it more seriously than he does. Deterrence is just as freely chosen as anything else. It serves as the most elaborate, learned, and desperate hand-waving I’ve ever witnessed. You’ll find that most people believe the following: The murderer had a choice. Every momentary version of you experiences one moment, including remembering the past moment and anticipating the future moment. Was that part of you as well? As to no addressing any of the arguments, there is not an argument given showing that the future exists, only the false conclusion that is drawn from time dilation. I’d love another book on a non-historical subject from you. And an action that is freely caused by that ability (and not interfered with, e.g. Every scientific expert in this question disagrees with you. Your free will is restricted by physics (“I want to teleport to Paris but I can’t do that”) and by ethics (“I want this person to not exist but I have no acceptable right to enact that desire”) and by necessary social conventions (“I want to know personal information on this person but that’s not allowed”), and so on, in every decision you ever make.
Studies from psychology confirm even more aspects of that fact. Obviously consciousness must be some sort of emergent property of energy IN MOTION, dynamic data changes, comparisons, decoding, encoding, etc. The only difference is that consciousness is an illusion: it is a fiction created by an information processing system. Wouldn’t a completely materialistic account of consciousness show that we can’t be morally responsible?” No, it wouldn’t, and here, in a nutshell, is why (I’ve had my say about that question in two books and many articles, so on this occasion I will be brief). QED.

Ok, there is a major flaw in the scientific view of RT. You are confusing a made up concept only found in the ivory tower, with the actual concept actually in practical use in the real world (courts of law, discussions of autonomy and human rights, personal relationships, self-actualization). I should also point you to a more recent exchange between Sam and Daniel that happened in the aftermath here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFa7vFkVy4g [= https://samharris.org/podcasts/free-will-revisited ]. The latter question’s answer, is wholly unaffected by the former. That puts it in the same category with colors, opportunities, dollars, promises, and love (to take a few valuable examples from a large set of affordances).

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